Heavenly King Toriko

Nov 16 2017, 08:52 AM

Actually Pyrus, while i agree that Vegito Blue stomps, heck, i have even BOG Arc SSJ God Goku beating SSJ4 Gogeta due to God Goku's feats, however, SSJ4 Gogeta should be easily thousands of times stronger then Buuhan, heck, some statements in GT could put Base Goku at the Beginning of the Series above Buuhan, then later on Final Form Baby Vegeta is seen beating Baby Arc SSJ3 Goku easily, then SSJ4 Goku was fairly even with Oozaru Baby, whom should be 10x stronger then 3rd Form Baby Vegeta, so SSJ4 should be over 10x stronger then SSJ3 which is a 400x boost from Base, making SSJ4 more then a 4,000x boost, so we already have Baby Arc SSJ4 Goku being easily thousands of times stronger then Buuhan due to statements

Then during the Super 17 Arc, we see Super 17 not even flinching from Majuub's attacks, while SSJ Goku was able to put a fight against Super 17, while Majuub seemed to put up more of a fight against Baby then SSJ3 Goku did, so Super 17 Arc Goku should be at least 10x stronger then Baby Arc Goku, since SSJ3 is 8x SSJ, and SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc)>Majuub>SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc), so Super 17 Arc SSJ4 Goku would be 10x stronger then the SSJ4 Goku that beat Baby, so Super 17 Arc SSJ4 Goku would then be over 40,000x stronger then Buuhan, then like you said, SSJ4 Gogeta is considered to be tens or dozens of times stronger then a Normal SSJ4, so i guess at most perhaps 100x stronger then SSJ4 Goku, so 40,000 x 100, so SSJ4 Gogeta considering all of this would be over 4,000,000x stronger then Buuhan, when we take into account the SSJ Multipliers, the Dance Multiplier

Not to mention Base Goku fighting on par and even getting the better of Rildo whom Goku says is even stronger then Buu, then Base Goku is seen beating SSJ Gohan, Gohan in GT i think was stated to have kept training after the Buu Arc, so logically this should make the SSJ Gohan that Base Goku stomped stronger then Mystic Gohan from the Buu Arc, said Mystic Gohan makes up the Majority of Buuhan's power, so Buuhan shouldn't even be 2x stronger then Mystic Gohan and Baby Arc Base Goku comes in and stomps GT SSJ Gohan who is above that Mystic Gohan

So SSJ4 Gogeta at least imo is easily millions of times stronger then Buuhan, GT is MASSIVELY stronger then Z, however like you said, SSJ4 Gogeta couldn't one shot Omega with his Big Bang Kamehameha, Omega's Minus Energy was going to destroy the Universe over a Short or Unknown period of time since Elder Kai said he and Kibito won't be sparred either, then Goku one shot Omega with a Spirit Bomb comprised of energy throughout the Universe, so SSJ4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron could be Multi-Galaxy level, since even Z SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu would be Multi-Solar System level given how kid Buu can gradually destroy Galaxies and Start of GT Base Goku is easily many times stronger then either of them and SSJ4 Gogeta could be millions of times stronger then that, so Multi-Galaxy to me is a fitting place to put the GT top tiers

With BOG Arc SSJ God Goku and Heavily Suppressed Beerus being in the Universal level easily, sorry for the essay XD, just thought I'd share my thoughts, i do agree with you that Super is MUCH stronger then GT

Pyrus

Nov 17 2017, 01:36 AM

Heavenly King Toriko

Nov 16 2017, 08:52 AM

Actually Pyrus, while i agree that Vegito Blue stomps, heck, i have even BOG Arc SSJ God Goku beating SSJ4 Gogeta due to God Goku's feats, however, SSJ4 Gogeta should be easily thousands of times stronger then Buuhan, heck, some statements in GT could put Base Goku at the Beginning of the Series above Buuhan, then later on Final Form Baby Vegeta is seen beating Baby Arc SSJ3 Goku easily, then SSJ4 Goku was fairly even with Oozaru Baby, whom should be 10x stronger then 3rd Form Baby Vegeta, so SSJ4 should be over 10x stronger then SSJ3 which is a 400x boost from Base, making SSJ4 more then a 4,000x boost, so we already have Baby Arc SSJ4 Goku being easily thousands of times stronger then Buuhan due to statements

Then during the Super 17 Arc, we see Super 17 not even flinching from Majuub's attacks, while SSJ Goku was able to put a fight against Super 17, while Majuub seemed to put up more of a fight against Baby then SSJ3 Goku did, so Super 17 Arc Goku should be at least 10x stronger then Baby Arc Goku, since SSJ3 is 8x SSJ, and SSJ Goku (Super 17 Arc)>Majuub>SSJ3 Goku (Baby Arc), so Super 17 Arc SSJ4 Goku would be 10x stronger then the SSJ4 Goku that beat Baby, so Super 17 Arc SSJ4 Goku would then be over 40,000x stronger then Buuhan, then like you said, SSJ4 Gogeta is considered to be tens or dozens of times stronger then a Normal SSJ4, so i guess at most perhaps 100x stronger then SSJ4 Goku, so 40,000 x 100, so SSJ4 Gogeta considering all of this would be over 4,000,000x stronger then Buuhan, when we take into account the SSJ Multipliers, the Dance Multiplier

Not to mention Base Goku fighting on par and even getting the better of Rildo whom Goku says is even stronger then Buu, then Base Goku is seen beating SSJ Gohan, Gohan in GT i think was stated to have kept training after the Buu Arc, so logically this should make the SSJ Gohan that Base Goku stomped stronger then Mystic Gohan from the Buu Arc, said Mystic Gohan makes up the Majority of Buuhan's power, so Buuhan shouldn't even be 2x stronger then Mystic Gohan and Baby Arc Base Goku comes in and stomps GT SSJ Gohan who is above that Mystic Gohan

So SSJ4 Gogeta at least imo is easily millions of times stronger then Buuhan, GT is MASSIVELY stronger then Z, however like you said, SSJ4 Gogeta couldn't one shot Omega with his Big Bang Kamehameha, Omega's Minus Energy was going to destroy the Universe over a Short or Unknown period of time since Elder Kai said he and Kibito won't be sparred either, then Goku one shot Omega with a Spirit Bomb comprised of energy throughout the Universe, so SSJ4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron could be Multi-Galaxy level, since even Z SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu would be Multi-Solar System level given how kid Buu can gradually destroy Galaxies and Start of GT Base Goku is easily many times stronger then either of them and SSJ4 Gogeta could be millions of times stronger then that, so Multi-Galaxy to me is a fitting place to put the GT top tiers

With BOG Arc SSJ God Goku and Heavily Suppressed Beerus being in the Universal level easily, sorry for the essay XD, just thought I'd share my thoughts, i do agree with you that Super is MUCH stronger then GT

The multipliers for the regular Super Saiyan forms in GT were not as powerful as they were in Z. Rild's line implied Super Saiyan gave between a 2-3x boost, and the GT Perfect Files comment on Super Saiyan 2 not providing a very big boost as well. Super Saiyan 4 is stated multiple times to be a release of dormant power, so it would likely not have a static multiplier, meaning it wouldn't necessarily be 4,000x Base all the time. Later GT would seem to support the boost being rather small compared to what it was against Baby, which is the first time Goku ever used it.

However, if you did use the full multipliers for every Super Saiyan transformation, and kept Super Saiyan 4 at 4,000x Base, then yes, SSJ4 Gogeta would end up millions of times stronger than Gohan-Boo.